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Post by Mark Patenaude on May 17, 2006 8:48:04 GMT -5
Just and general question for those of you who fish with a nymph dropper off a "dry" point fly.
What length of dropper do you prefer? I know there are many factors to consider with depth/speed of water being primary but I'm curious.
I prefer 18-24". Anything longer makes it difficult to cast without creating a mess.
Mark
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Post by strbender on May 17, 2006 17:15:19 GMT -5
I use the same lenghs that you mention. I tie them to a Dave's Hopper or a Stimulator. I like something big and bushy for the dry fly.
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Post by jlibs on May 19, 2006 9:45:38 GMT -5
Depending on my mood, I'll use 15-20" or so. Although you have another chance with a big dry as the strike indicator, I typically use a regular float/indicator because I don't like being bothered with having to keep applying the floatants to the dry.
JLIBS
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Post by Mark Patenaude on May 19, 2006 13:50:48 GMT -5
JLIBS:
Then when using an indicator you would want to place it 1.5 times the depth of the water you are fishing (as a basic rule of thumb) wouldn't you?
I was speaking specifically about a dry/dropper setup. However, there is a point to be made about having the apply floatant to the dry but its worth it to double your chances of a take.
FYI. I use Frogs Fanny or Doc's Dry Dust to float the dry. I vastly prefer them over liquid/paste due to the mess and the fact that they float much longer. Ever tried either of them?
Mark
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Post by FishinCane on May 19, 2006 14:34:06 GMT -5
I usually use the dropper setup when fishing to trout taking emergers. Typically place the dropper fly 12"-16" below dry. Favorite setup is size 16 Adams and size 18 Copper John. I usually don't use the dropper technique when fishing nymphs. For that I use an indicator placed higher up on the rig.
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Post by JoeOverlock on May 20, 2006 7:42:09 GMT -5
When I fish a dropper with a dry I'll go well over that 12"-16" mark. I'll go up to 4-5 feet on my dropper. With my graphite rod this does lead to some bad casts, but since I've switched to my bamboo rod I find that I have a lot less problems with this since I'm not rushing the cast.
I also like to fish 3 nymphs on a 20 foot leader with a strike indicator. And that's a pain in the but to cast. Very productive though.
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Post by ctroy36 on May 20, 2006 9:23:09 GMT -5
Joe:
Why not just use 4-lb mono spinning line rather than a 20-ft leader. If there's any weight to the nymphs, you should be able to lob the flies out. Casting any kind of a setup with droppers is inviting tangles. I don't usually use an indicator but can imagine that makes it even worse.
I've read of folks who do use mono and have been tempted to give it a try. Even thought of putting one of my spinning reels on my 10-footer.
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Post by JoeOverlock on May 20, 2006 16:00:20 GMT -5
Hey Charley, I've seen guys put spinning reels on their fly rods before. They say it works pretty good. I don't know about replacing my fly line with 4lb mono though, I don't think I'm that bad yet. ;D I bet Uplander has something to contribute to this though.  |
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Post by Mark Patenaude on May 22, 2006 8:50:44 GMT -5
Putting mono on a fly rod subscribes to the "chuck and duck" method that I believe was "invented" in Michigan and is widely used during the Salmon and Steelhead runs through the Midwest.
I won't even think about doing it. The guys that I have seen do it use a center-pin reel instead of a standard fly reel. I don't know why they just don't use a noodle rod.
Mark
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Post by FishinCane on May 22, 2006 13:34:12 GMT -5
I've been seeing a lot of center pinners on the Lake O tribs. Not sure if they are using a noodle rod or spey fly rod but they seem to be very effective. It's amazing how long of a drift they can get...
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