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Post by Uplander on Feb 17, 2006 11:01:56 GMT -5
I’ve been fishing Berkshire streams for 30 years now, and can honestly say that in all that time I’ve only encountered two other fly fishermen who weren't with me. I don’t know why, because apparently there are others….
To be honest, in all those years I don’t think I’ve ever run into more than 5 or 6 other fishermen, let alone fly anglers. Once on a backwoods beaver pond I came across two fly fishermen who were there before me. I was honestly very surprised as I’d never seen anyone there previously, and haven’t since. I gave them wide berth and continued upstream.
The other encounters have all been with bait fishermen. All really nice guys. Only one expressed an interest in my fly rod.
I expect most of the reason is that, aside from the Deerfield, there are no “destination” (thank God!) fishing spots in the Berkshires. Are most locals bait/spinner guys? How about “Fish Pond?” I’ve heard there’s a cadre up there that park their carcasses near the old snack shop and fish all day long. Bait?
I’ve only fished the Deerfield a couple of times, and always at about 5AM, so there’s never anyone else there. I suppose if I fished it more often I’d see plenty of fly guys.
Anyone else bumping into fly fishermen on Berkshire waterways?
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Post by Mark Patenaude on Feb 17, 2006 14:34:05 GMT -5
Hoosic River: In the many times I have fly fished this river, I have only run across one other fly guy. It was guite a few years ago in the stretch along Rt. 8 at the Adams/Cheshire line. The water was really low and he was throwing a chocolate brown EHC in about a size 18 and did quite well, despite the water conditions.
Deerfield River: In total I have probably seen less than a dozen other guys fly fishing. The most that I have seen at one time was 3 guys who were out with guide Jack Smola on the lower C&R section about a 1/2 mile above the pool at the confluence of the Cold and the Deerfield. The trout were rising all over the place but they didn't do very well. I have also seen a few guys in the upper C&R area along the stretch by the parking area below the dam. When I got to talking with them, most of them were from out of the area and from as far away as Boston (for the day?!).
When I was young, there was a gentleman who I would see almost everyday with chest waders, wicker creel and bamboo fly rod in hand walking along Grove Street in Adams heading to and from that section of the river.
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Post by FishinCane on Feb 17, 2006 18:54:57 GMT -5
The gentleman you saw fishing along Grove Street in Adams was probably Digger Degere. Even up until his last years I would see him all the time fishing that section of the Hoosic.
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Post by Tim on Feb 19, 2006 18:44:44 GMT -5
Hi uplander Its Tim Billings I was wondering if you know my dad Clarance The best fly fisherman & tyer around or any of his old Friends ? they were the best ! The old Fort Mass. Flytyers They started The first chapter of trout unlimited hear we teched casting & tying all my life ! I was wondering ho you are and if I know you !
Call Me its still under My dads Mame OK !
Fly fishing Forever!
Tim
PS HAY Joe its My river TAKE CARE OF IT !
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Post by Uplander on Feb 19, 2006 20:07:46 GMT -5
Hey Tim. You can read all about me here: orbitvisual.proboards31.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1114104551I remember meeting your father a long time ago. I know he was quite the fisherman, and a wonder at the tying vice. Your parents were friends with my grandparents. My grandfather passed away one year ago, and I last saw your mother at his funeral and a service at the church in Blackinton. She and my grandmother were very good friends. I was sorry to hear of her recent passing. |
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Post by Tim on Feb 19, 2006 22:36:15 GMT -5
  ???Hay Uplander what do you mean i wonder at the vice he started tying in 1930 was tying for 68 years till he died in 1999 you could not even begin to fathem all the flyes he tyed for countless custimers and frends I still tye for some of his costermes ,and I still don't know hoo you are ! it seams to me you people could say hoo you are and give a small reference to what you have done in all your flyfishing history ? make a new post on that would be interesting I have been flyfishing for 43 years maybe more born with rod & bobben in my hand! Started on Battenkill They had dumb fish then 1963 The fishing was great then till 1972 the big flude changed the river forever ! We went to yellowstone first time when I was 8 Went 21 times after that fished all the big rivers I could make a list i would have to look it up we fisheh so many the hardest had to be silver creek in Idaho We had a blast people would come up to mom at bufflow ford thats on the yellowstone in park best spot on the river and say hoo are them guys do you know them are they pros ! They wanted us to get out of the river to tye for them she sead are we would not get out of the river for anything but to eat ! and a beer of corse when I was old enoff . We met Frank Matteraly not shure on spelling his mame don't have time to look it up now! he whanted us to go to his ranch in west! thats west yellowstone I have frends that live thear on grouce ave. they used to go out with us till Dave moved form NH.to west Yellowstone luckey guy he just sent me a Pic. of a great grayling he cought not long ago must be nice to live thear well I am sick of riting so HOO ARE YOU? start new thred if you dare! so see you at my hole across the street Tims hole not Joes! been thear befor Joe ever picked up a rod! And allways will Be see you when the sulfers are on can't what till spring! Tim Billings! Tight lines as they say! Flyfishing forever!!
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Post by Tim on Feb 20, 2006 0:42:00 GMT -5
???How come when I login it still seas I am A Guest??? Flyfishingforever ;D Hi!Joe! Tim Flyfishingforever! I could die tomoro happy Ive fished all the great rivers of the west! And canada To! The Bow is the best! 8-Iam done now! You poor Guys! |
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Post by Uplander on Feb 20, 2006 8:02:09 GMT -5
Being a “wonder” at fly tying is a complement Tim. As in, “wonderful.” I never saw your father tie, but my grandparents told me he was great.
Who am I? Name’s Shaun O’Connell. I was born in Williamstown and moved a mile or so down the road to Blackinton when I was 6. My parents still live there. Now I live down by Cape Cod for work. I don’t believe we’ve ever met, but, as I said, my grandparents (Betty and Al) were good friends with your parents.
What have I “done” when it comes to fly fishing? No awards, medals, or grand trips. I’m just a Berkshire trout fisherman; and that’s all I want to be….
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Post by JoeOverlock on Feb 20, 2006 8:49:46 GMT -5
Tim, you need to "login" to the board. At the top of the page you will see a Login and Password box.
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Post by Mark Patenaude on Feb 20, 2006 9:18:26 GMT -5
Shaun: it may have been Digger. The gent wore hearing aids in both ears, was around 40-45 at the time, wore glasses and was kind of on the portly side.
Tim:
1. Don't speak ill of the dead, the Karma will get back to you.
2. Please use the spell checker.
Please keep everything above board and positive.
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Post by Tim on Feb 20, 2006 10:48:57 GMT -5
Wasent speking ill of the dead just stating facts I liked Digger ! He was still blind as a bat. !
Joe I do login it still seas Guest. The spell checker sucks it changes words then you have it rong! its my typing! hoo cares anyway ! not hear for spelling lesson!
Just ragin on you guys no afence !
Gone to ty now
Flyfishing Forever Tim see Ya!
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Post by wintershope on Feb 21, 2006 20:34:36 GMT -5
:oI see too many fly fisherman when im on the deerfield,but yes im the master of the hoosac river,and see some people ,now and then.The biggest being 30 inchs,,now thats a trout..fish on mates
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Post by JoeOverlock on Feb 22, 2006 7:55:05 GMT -5
:oI see too many fly fisherman when im on the deerfield,but yes im the master of the hoosac river,and see some people ,now and then.The biggest being 30 inchs,,now thats a trout..fish on mates I bet you thought you could hide by using that screen name, hey Paul?  |
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Post by Uplander on Feb 22, 2006 13:28:50 GMT -5
When it comes to the Hoosic, I thought that it was Tim's river, but Joe's hole? Now it turns out that Wintershope (Paul) is the Rivermaster? I'm so confused....  |
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Post by JoeOverlock on Feb 22, 2006 14:08:41 GMT -5
We take turns |
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Post by Paul the fish head on Feb 22, 2006 15:15:33 GMT -5
;DI know I cant hide from you Joe,and really I dont want too,ya know the great floods of the fall have had a great impact on the hoosac river and this year may not be as good as some think.And you must remember that the hound and hunt clubb in Adams is not stocking brown trout and more.I think we may need some brown trout to help this river get back in shape.Im sure that some wild trout survived it all,but Im sure what ever redds where there are gone.So one year of spawning is down the drain.I saw this happen on the Lemoilllie in Vermont and it took years to come back.It will be interesting this spring to see what has happened to the river.I bet those bass are gone. Paul Gigliotti
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Post by Tim on Feb 22, 2006 16:34:09 GMT -5
It is my river and I chalange anyone to out fish me! on it. Wintershope I got one 31&1/4"up by west on a 26 tryco a few years ago! It was great! It took till dark to land held it up and went Yeha! Realeced it then went to store and bought a beer I was still shaking ! Shure wish I had my camera with me that day but i did have a Ruller. Do not stock the river! We want wild browns not Slugish Stocked fish they will ruin the jean pool ! Did you people ever hear of the vebare box not shuer if thats the way it its spelled . But they put wild eggs in them and burry them in the gravel Just like Wittlock did on the White river. Thats the way to go if you want to incress the fish Pop. The trout will still be thear! I don't know about the Bass never cought one in my life! I hope it washed some of the big rainbows down from up above! Hears a pic of a small one I got up by west to!  See ya on the river maybe just about every time I am thear no one else is! Its pritty good about 10 in the morning some times all day when a good hatch is on the slufers are great! Fiyfishing Forever Tim |
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Post by Paul salmon slayer on Feb 22, 2006 21:02:25 GMT -5
thanks for nice picture Tim,do you remember who I am? I was a friend of your dads.Yes I will give you credit you are a good fly fisherman.A challange,thats not what im looking for,just wanted to rattle your cage a little.Remember me now?
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Post by jlibs on Feb 22, 2006 21:03:22 GMT -5
Joe, the club is just one year old (as of our meeting next Wednesday night 3/1 in Pittsfield) and they are already naming a fishing hole after you?
Nice work man.
JLIBS
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Post by Tim on Feb 23, 2006 12:18:42 GMT -5
Ho named it Treat cleaners basin in the first place? Could it have been Joe? Its always been across the street to me! Boy I remember it when I was a Little kid it stunk so bad you could not go outside in the summer on a hot day! Hasn't it come a long way! If you told me then ween I got older I would be fishing Thar I would have sead you are nuts that water would melt my fly line or spinning line if I ever fished with one! Sometimes it was all different colors to one day green the next day blue! Eyck! You can still see oil slicks sometimes! But now its pretty nice! See ya on the slicks Tim The club is one Joe has been Flyfishing for how long? I have sean Digger fishing Thar before he died why not Diggers memorial hole? My dad did not get to live long enough to fish their with me or I would call it Clarance Billings Hole! He is their in spirit with me sometimes wen i go over! Thats wen I get lots of fish! ;D  to of the greats are gone not to Manichean the rest I could name Quit a few since I got to fish with most of them! long ago! |
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Post by FishinCane on Feb 23, 2006 13:00:11 GMT -5
Tim,
Thats a nice rainbow in the picture. Did you get that out of Joe's hole? I've gotten a few that size up on the South Branch (Adams).
Is that a Hardy made CFO reel in the picture? One of the best fly reels ever made....
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Post by JoeOverlock on Feb 23, 2006 16:17:29 GMT -5
10 years, Tim! Wait untill I see you in person.   |
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Post by Tim on Feb 23, 2006 21:55:44 GMT -5
Hay Joe Just Kidding with you can you take it? Really I think you are pretty good for only 10 years!Ha Ha! Got the rainbow up by the bridge before west store. Yes CFO real, I use a Lamson light speed now I love it its great! Thinking of building a new Scott rod to add to my Collection to. I have to oder blanks & guides I have the rest! I don't fish any else but around hear any more! I get lots of fish in hoosie. Later Joe Tim Flyfishing in the spring I cant Waite!  |
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Post by Tim on Feb 24, 2006 3:41:27 GMT -5
!995 About? Hears ware I was 21 st and next to last time out west that was my Dad! That is great fishing their!  Eat your hart out! Tim! ;D |
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Post by Uplander on Feb 24, 2006 8:03:15 GMT -5
I see the photo all 5 times. Gonna kill folks on dial-up....
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Post by Uplander on Feb 24, 2006 10:05:01 GMT -5
Don’t be so sensitive Tim! I wasn’t talking about you being on dial-up. What I meant was, it’s going to take a long time for other people to view all 5 pictures if they have dial up. It takes a long time for pictures to come into view when someone is on dial-up. Or so I’m told…. |
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Post by Tim on Feb 24, 2006 11:26:34 GMT -5
Not that long! i tried to get Verizon but their are no fiber optic cables on my street what a bummer Netzero sucks so dose BCN I don't think other people on dial up can see them all I can't! I only see the last one they say netzero is high speed but they are slower than(BCN 45k) netzero is 43k Your grandma told me she has Verizon so i called they sead not on my street so i guise iam stuck with one or the other i can't even download what i want! oh well. Tim |
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Post by Tim on Feb 24, 2006 11:30:35 GMT -5
Ps can't see that Rainbow ether!
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Post by Tim on Feb 24, 2006 12:32:17 GMT -5
Just looked I can't see my computer on,of topic-Windsor Castle ether can you? That seams funny i don't get it?! Dial up dose stink you turn on Netzero-high speed 3G yea right! Rite away it can't find server that stinks! Tim |
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Post by Uplander on Feb 24, 2006 13:10:19 GMT -5
Just looked I can't see my computer on,of topic-Windsor Castle ether can you? That seams funny i don't get it?! I do see it. I think that you’re posting it as a URL rather than a picture…. I think you’re posting it like this (I’m leaving the U off of the first "URL" and the I off of the first "IMG" so you can see the string instead of the photo. There is an * where those letters were): [*RL=http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cimg10518ec.png][*MG]http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/4061/cimg10518ec.th.png[/IMG][/URL][/b] When you should be posting it like this (again, leaving the I out of the first "IMG" so you can see the string instead of the photo: [*MG]http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/4061/cimg10518ec.th.png[/IMG][/b] |
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???Hay Uplander what do you mean i wonder at the vice he started tying in 1930 was tying for 68 years till he died in 1999 you could not even begin to fathem all the flyes he tyed for countless custimers and frends I still tye for some of his costermes ,and I still don't know hoo you are ! it seams to me you people could say hoo you are and give a small reference to what you have done in all your flyfishing history ? make a new post on that would be interesting I have been flyfishing for 43 years maybe more born with rod & bobben in my hand!
